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Indiana Catholic Priest says Red HRC Equality Symbol is “The Mark of the Beast”

My posted response to Brazil, Indiana Catholic Priest Father John Hollowell’s blog:Screen Shot 2013-06-23 at 11.42.05 PM

Sad, very sad indeed. You, sir, are no man of God. You are an enabler of hate. People listen to you; your words have power. Yet, you use this power to inflict harm.

LGBTQ teens, young adults, men and women will be beaten, gay-bashed, commit suicide, and even murdered — as they have in the past — by these same potent words and vitriolic statements. Some folks understand your words as opportunity and permission to hate. Blessings to do so by a priest no less!

Perhaps, Father, you should start with getting your Catholic house in order — from Brazil, Indiana to the Vatican. The Catholic Church is currently in no position to “cast stones” or to place judgment.

J. Patrick Redmond
Miami, FL and Vincennes, IN

www.jpatrickredmond.com

UPDATE: Received Monday, June 24, 2013 — Father John Hollowell’s rebuttal:

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20 Comments on “Indiana Catholic Priest says Red HRC Equality Symbol is “The Mark of the Beast””

  1. Jay Mason June 24, 2013 at 2:23 am #

    Even if we were to ignore the transgressions of the catholic Church in the past (read the history), this is absurd.

    • J. Patrick Redmond June 24, 2013 at 6:08 pm #

      Yes, Jay, it is absurd! And Father John should be called on his absurdity. I know many, many Catholics that DO NOT believe in hate. He’s not representative of them.

  2. David Raetsen June 24, 2013 at 3:05 pm #

    Well said!

  3. Greg June 24, 2013 at 4:31 pm #

    You said he posted it and I hope you are right and you mean it was ‘approved’. good response.

    I also wrote a response and wonder if it will be ‘approved’ under the name of n2bbuilding or greg p.

    Thanx for getting this on facebook. I am still wondering just exactly how he is getting ‘666’ from a red ‘=’ sign.

    Thanx

    • J. Patrick Redmond June 24, 2013 at 6:05 pm #

      I was raised in Vincennes, IN and grew up listening to this sort of rhetoric from local pulpits.

      I posted my response on Father John Hollowell’s blog but I doubt it was approved. Therefore, I posted it here. I also have screen shots of Father John’s vitriolic post in the event it should “disappear.”

      Our voices, both LGBTQ and straight allies alike, must be many and louder than Father John Hollowell and those of his ilk. Our generation and ones following will no longer tolerate hate veiled in religion.

      Thank you for reading and commenting. Please feel free to share the post with others. It’s important that our voices are heard. We are saving lives.

      Best to you.

      • Phil June 25, 2013 at 7:03 am #

        I left a rather pointed response to explain why 3 men cannot marry. It is ‘awaiting moderation’ (though I thought it was pretty moderate to begin with… 😉 ) In very short summary it is because legal marriage is a legal contract which defines thousands of legal benefits as to two people and not for three. It’s not hard to see that pension benefits and child custody become quite And since each person in a threesome could presumably marry more people; even more unwieldy when you have each of those 3 people with 2-5 spouses for example, some of which also have multiple spouses…now you have no boundary on the number of people who can be in a marriage unless you somehow can define a limit legally. Even then you have lost the surety that comes with marriage; if you are sick, which of your two husbands gets to decide on your medical care? Your burial place? Answers may be devised but this really would require a redefinition of marriage legally in nearly every respect, new laws from every legislature (which would not be the same everywhere) and hundreds of years of court cases to resolve the questions.

  4. Dayle June 24, 2013 at 6:26 pm #

    I think that being a priest not only deprives a man of sex, it deprives him of intimacy. It leaves a priest in the unenviable position of being the least qualified person in the world to understand relationships. They think being gay is only about sex, and they fail to understand that it is also about intimacy. It is sad that these priests who see themselves as loving emissaries of God, are in fact distributors of hate and intolerance due to their lack of understanding and insight.

    • J. Patrick Redmond June 24, 2013 at 6:42 pm #

      Thank you for taking time to read and comment. I find your thoughts intelligent and insightful.

      Best to you.

    • Phil June 25, 2013 at 7:10 am #

      I grew up Catholic. WHatever deficits the church had back in the 60’s have become wildly magnified and distorted as it has shrunk and lost so many of its priests who perhaps had more common sense. Like the Republican party it has become more and more conservative and rejecting differing opinions. Irrelevant to me since I long since rejected the dogma. But in the past forty years, as an out gay man, I’ve had to reject the Church’s moral authority as well. It does not speak to or for me.

      (And priests…hmm…you know that there ARE married Catholic priests? There are ‘Rites’ other than the Roman Rite and in most or all of those including the Eastern Rite and the Coptic Rite, priests can marry. These Rites acknowledge the pope as their ultimate authority, I’m not talking about Orthodox churches or anything like that. So obviously it is not a requirement of god that priests be single…but yes they have no knowledge or experience of marital relationships with few exceptions so how can they possibly speak about them and in fact be THE authority about them?)

  5. Kathleen M Isabell June 24, 2013 at 6:54 pm #

    He’s not even a good Catholic. Most Catholics at least offer prayers and are kindly predisposed toward people they may consider sinners. This guy is batsh*t crazy as well as filled with hate.

  6. Brian June 25, 2013 at 1:00 am #

    I feel that Father Hollowell doth Protesteth Too Much!!! It’s very easy for him to say and I quote him in a much shorter version: ” I’ve asked thousands about gay marriage and if why two men why not three.”

    I’ll answer your question right here Father and I think you are not telling the truth, as in you are lying, as in you are a LIAR, since I am 99.9% that out of the thousands of people you claim you asked about why if 2 men can’t marry then why not 3, then a few would have said Polygamy is illegal.

    I bet if your statement were is true about you asking thousands about gay marriage, which again, I think you just made it up, but I will say that I am sure that many people would say the same thing as if you had asked “If two people can get married, such as one man and one woman, then why not 3 people, such as 2 women marrying one man or 2 men marrying 1 woman?” Then as I feel and will give you my answer, that is Polygamy and that is ILLEGAL in America, and unless you are living in one of the towns in Utah or some other Mormon compound throughout America, such as the towns across Utah or on the Utah/Arizona border in the land of Warren Jeffs or one of the compound towns in Texas or Idaho or a few others then there is no polygamy in America unless people are doing it themselves without the knowledge of the local Justice of the Peace.

    Well, Father Hollowell, this sounds to me that you are just throwing out there the best response you can think of to quiet people, and I highly DOUBT you have asked thousands, since you live in Brazil, Indiana and the entire town only has 7,912 people as of the 2010 census. 97-98 percent of the population is WHITE, so it’s not exactly the center of racial equality or liberalism and by what I’ve read the entire town is NOT catholic, so I wonder where Father Hollowell did his survey since I HIGHLY Doubt that the “Thousands of people” he asked live in Brazil or even in Clay county or the surrounding counties of Sullivan or Vigo.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil,_Indiana

    Father Hollowell, what do you hope to gain by your protest and by your making such ignorant and far out in outer space statements about a red square with 2 pink bars across it or of two men on the square or of two women on the square? Do you hope to start your own church? I feel that you are not any better of a person or of a christian than Fred Phelps and his crazy sister Shirley Phelps and the rest of the 80 or so inbred members of the Phelps family and their WBC-Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas.

    Father Hollowell, please tell us the TRUTH, how much money have you been given by the person or persons who want you to get on your soapbox or pulpit and preach out against good and kind and loving homosexuals, just nice people who happen to have been born gay, simply nice gay men and lesbians who want to live their lives in peace and quiet and to marry the one they love and to get the over 1,000 benefits that straight/heterosexual couples get through being married in America? Father Hollowell, are you hoping to get more members of your church? I know that many churches in Indiana are closing and you know that too. You know that in April and May MILLIONS of Letters were sent out to catholics on the catholic church mailing list which listed any catholic school or church in their area that was being closed down to lack of attendance or lack of students.

    Please, please Father Hollowell tell us the truth. Are you hoping that you will gain a large number of homophobic, hateful right-wing bigots and Gay Haters who will join your church and keep your church open? I think this is the reason that you are on your “Campaign” against gay marriage so that you hope to get the Ultra-Conservative catholics who hate gays or even just the ones who are a little homophobic or just a little against gay marriage to join your church and to FILL YOUR COLLECTION PLATES WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ So that you continue to have a job and don’t have to retire or so that you don’t have to move out of Brazil and to some town that you don’t want to be.

    Please tell us Father, do you have a gay boyfriend, or just another gay man whom you have sexual relationships with or intimacy? Do you hope to prevent other gay men from marrying because of the fact that the catholic church forbids you from marrying a man, and not even a woman? Do you feel some justice in your heart that if YOU can STOP gay men from marrying that you will feel good about yourself and your life as a catholic priest so that you can feel justified by having to remain single? How many other catholic priests do you know in Terre Haute, Bloomington, Indianapolis or Evansville or Fort Wayne or South Bend Indiana that you are jealous and bitter and resentful against? Please Father Hollowell, we want to see inside your heart and your head and find out the truth and the real reason that you want to prevent gay marriage.

    Father Hollowell you seem to be particularly bothered by TWO MEN marrying but it seems that you don’t seem to be so upset by two women. Does this mean you have a double standard or that you know by the communications of the catholic church and what you are aware of that society freaks out and is much more disgusted by the site of two men holding hands or kissing or embracing than they are of two women kissing and embracing or even that society isn’t as bothered or angry about the thought of two women marrying like they get angry about the thought of two men marrying.

    Please enlighten us Father on what the truth really is since we would all like to know.

    Thank you for your time, I’m looking forward to more of your comments.

  7. Chad June 25, 2013 at 8:41 am #

    Hey Father,

    1.) Learn the difference between there, their and they’re. Only then is it possible for anyone to take your rebuttals seriously. Even then I doubt any intelligently thinking person would take your words to heart.

  8. Gypsum Fantastik June 25, 2013 at 10:14 am #

    “The U.S. Religious Landscape Survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life has put hard numbers on the anecdotal evidence: One out of every 10 Americans is an ex-Catholic. If they were a separate denomination, they would be the third-largest denomination in the United States, after Catholics and Baptists. One of three people who were raised Catholic no longer identifies as Catholic.”

    The words of Mr. Hollowell (he sure isn’t any ‘father’!) and those like him have driven me, along with millions of others, from the Roman Catholic Church. I left after it became abundantly clear that the RCC doesn’t speak for God – it only serves to further its own temporal power and authority. God has not said word one about same-sex marriage, all we have is a bunch of humans demanding that other humans take their word for it, and I’m not buying it anymore.

    Let him bluster – every day there are fewer and fewer people listening, and more and more leaving. Even those that are ‘culturally Catholic’ might still sit in the pews, but they’re growing increasingly tired of being lectured by a bunch of old white men who have deliberately put themselves out of touch with the world the rest of us live our daily lives in.

    Let him and the clergy howl – they can’t stop the future, and it’s going to be a future where the Roman Catholic Church is little more than a quaint old institution struggling and failing to remain relevant, because it sure doesn’t speak for God.

    • Steve Leong June 25, 2013 at 1:22 pm #

      AMEN!

  9. Steve Leong June 25, 2013 at 1:20 pm #

    Despite all the justifications Catholic leaders come up with to promote discrimination, condemnation, hate, and fear towards Gay people, they too stand to be judged. As their congregations decline in the USA, they still don’t get that it is because of the “hate” they promote. They younger generation are not ignorant. They see the writing on the wall.

    Sadly, their judgments, do more damage to Christianity, than ALL the Gays in the world. They pour obscene amounts of money into initiatives to stop Gay marriage. Tithing money. Money that could be used to feed, house, and bring help to the needy in our nation and the world. This can’t be good in ANY spiritual sense.

    God created LGBT people for God’s reasons. curb the overpopulation, find loving parents for children abandoned by straights, we need to trust in God’s plan.
    In the end, what one sows, so shall they reap.

  10. J. Patrick Redmond June 25, 2013 at 1:42 pm #

    Seems INSTINCT MAGAZINE agrees:

    “You need to look no further than recent news reports to see who’s really out for blood, Mr. Hollowell; anti-LGBT violence is on the rise yet again, and we have bigoted religious “leaders’ like yourself to thank for fueling the flames of homophobic hostility. The true “mark of the beast” is the blood that’s on your hands for so rigorously ignoring the tenets of Christian faith to speak not from a place of spirituality but from a place of hatred and hostility.”

    http://instinctmagazine.com/post/catholic-priest-calls-red-hrc-equality-symbol-mark-beast

  11. Scottilla June 25, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

    Why can 2 men get married and not 3? Because there were no multiple marriages in the bible! No!… wait!

  12. saraljulian June 26, 2013 at 10:39 am #

    I just posted on his reply to you informing him that he and his hateful minions are now on the wrong side of history, we’ll see if he lets it through.

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